Wednesday, January 10, 2007

to push or not to push

I am currently completing my cardiopulmonary practical at a major teaching hospital. As my fellow colleagues will be aware a major the role of a physiotherapist in this setting is encouraging the post operative patient to get up out of bed and begin to mobilise.
I have discovered over the past few days that this task can prove difficult. Let us first look at the situation from a patient’s point of view. Imagine you have undergone major surgery just 24 hours ago, you have woken up in a strange place, there are 3 strangers sharing your small room, your head and body ache, you feel nauseous and a little dizzy, there are ear piercing alarms coming from down the corridor plus you have 3 tubes coming out your body and 2 others going in. At least you feel somewhat safe in the comfort of your bed and finally, after an hour of moving around in the bed you have found a comfortable position when…… in walks the PHYSIO and asks you to get up out of bed and go for a walk.
From a physiotherapists point of view we know that it vitally important for our cardiopulmonary patients to sit upright and mobilise out of bed. We understand the physiology of the lungs, how anaesthetic and bed rest compromise the functioning of this organ, how upright position and deep breathing exercises help to reinflate collapsed alveoli and how clearing secretions can reduce chest infections rates. In a perfect world every set of lungs would sit out of bed day one, ambulate and demonstrate good breathing exercises, however as physios we don’t deal with lungs we treat humans!! And sometimes despite the best education and encouragement that you can give the human will just say “no”. So how do we know when to push for what we want and believe in or when to leave the patient be?? I asked this question of a supervisor of mine and she shed some light on the area, you can’t force anyone to do anything they don’t want to do. However the use of good bargaining and persuasion skills do not go astray, education tailored to the individual is an invaluable tool.
Obviously there are also times that call for compassion and clinical judgement for example, some surgeries on my ward are exploratory procedures, if the results come back with widespread inoperable metastasic disease, it would be inappropriate for a physiotherapist to insist that the patient gets up and walks around the ward shortly after they receive the news.
I have noticed a wide range of ways that different physiotherapists tackle this kind of patient, some are very strict and do all but physically pull the patient out of bed; others seem less keen to upset the patient and don’t really attempt too hard to change the patient’s mind. I guess knowing when to push and when not to push a patient will only come with experience…

7 comments:

Madeleine Casey said...
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Madeleine Casey said...

Jess,

I've come across this on my clinics too....not cardio as yet, but as we know, the problem exists across all areas (except maybe outpatients...they just don't show up!).
It can be incredibly frustrating as you plan your day to see patient's in order of priority etc etc. What I've found useful with these type of patients if despite education etc etc they don't want you to see them, then clinical reasoning the patient's main problems ie. their cardio problems in order of priotiry and maybe negotiating an alternate time may be beneficial. I've found that negotiating a time to at least do something has been quite useful....it worked well for geriatric patients anyway. Also 'bribing' patients with getting to the toilet independently or showering has been quite motivational, especially after surgery.

Our major role as physios is to educate our patients....not only for short term, but also long term management....so even if you can sit and chat - working out some goals together might help.

There's my thoughts.

Mads

Anonymous said...

I'm on cardio now, and it's really pushing me to be firmer with patients. I tend to just let them do what they want to do, and unfortunately that won't help them any, and it'll probably get me failed.
Once I was told by a clinician that if the person is a smoker then you definitely get as demanding as possible, because getting them up becomes that more important.
What I've been doing a lot is tricking the patients into getting them do what I want to do. For example if I want to take them for a walk, and they refuse, I say that they could at least sit on the edge of the bed to "get better blood flow to their lungs." And once I get them doing that I say "I just want to see if you are able to stand." And once I have them standing I get them to do a couple steps, then it's "we might as well just continue and go for a walk." :)
But then it does get frightening when you take someone for a walk and they desat to 74%. That scared the crap out of me.
One last thing before I go. I find that it helps to try and see the people you think may be difficult first. Then if they say they don't want to do physio, I say "oh ok I understand. You do look tired, so I'll come back after lunch so that you have time to rest, then we'll do some stuff."
Anywho thanks for reading.

Vaidas said...

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I totally agree with you Jess that there is no a clear cut what to do when the patient is uncooperative or in too much pain and doesn’t want to do their exercises, even though we know that particular intervention would be beneficial for that patient. I guess you assess case by case and then make the most appropriate decision, by either trying to build a report with the patient to improve the compliance or notify other health team staff of the situation. In my opinion all the health team staff should come up with a strategy that would be beneficial to that patient, but also would take in consideration the patients wish in particular cases such as when he or she has a terminal illness. Like you said Jess the clinical judgement would improve with more experience.

Edith Fischer said...

I came across a few patients on my cardio placement with whom I had to use my best negotiating skills to get them out of bed. I generally found what worked best was explaining exactly why it is important for them to get out of bed the first day. If they wouldn't be compliant on my first attempt, I would then negotiate a time on the same day so at least they could mentally prepare. And usually they would do just fine on my second visit.
I also found that if the patients had been seen by a physio pre-op who explained the post operative process to them, they were generally more compliant.
And some patients, you just can't get them out of bed..as happened to me on my last placement. When I went to see that particular patient three day post op again he told me the only reason he wouldn't get out of bed the first day was that he didn't like being told what to do. That made me smile...
Edith

Nicole Fournier said...

Hi Jess!

Your blog seems to very popular among the group! Probably because we can all relate. I too can definitely relate. I recently completed my cardio prac at Freo in December and saw this as an issue as well. I realised that while you can't force a patient to do anything it is best to go into the room with no question in your body language and attitude that it is, definitely the best thing for the patient and that there is no question that you will be getting out of bed today! Now, you may say that this does not give them any choice in the matter, however, I find that it tricks the ones that think they can't do it into doing it without question (even if it's difficult)and then for those that really truly physically can not do it- they have a definite goal to work towards. Clinical judgment is defintely really important and I think, with experience, you get a feel for those that can and can't do it. So act as though you have absolute faith in them and that this is what "all" the patients do!

Good luck!

Nicole

Anonymous said...

Hi everyone, what an enjoyable post and set of comments. You've really covered an excellent breadth of issues with and solutions to this problem. Great to be reading your posts. This post and comments encourages me as I see your capacity to support each other and come up with effective solutions to problems that are not readilly nor broadly answered in (most) physio text books.
I look forward to reading further posts and comments,
regards
Stephanie